Are you a REAL Staind fan?
Do you have Tormented?
Did you see them in concert this year?
Did you own every album?
Have you listened to them for over 10 years?
No? Well that's perfectly cool. Because the above - doesn't make you or break you as a Staind fan, at least in my opinoion. Just because you may not know Staind had a cd labeled Tormented or just because you don't own every album - plays no factor at all as to what makes a REAL Staind fan. Let me go on please:
Do you love Staind's music? Old and new?
If you were given the chance, would you go see the concert?
Would you sing along with a song, that gets played on the radio?
No matter how large your playlist, Staind shows up at least once every 9 or 10 songs?
That's the true stuff right there. That's what loving a band and their music is all about. It's not about how many CDs you own, how many times you have met them - it's about loving the music. That's what makes you a REAL Staind fan.
I made this post because of all the asshats out there telling everybody that "The Illusion of Progress" sucks because it's not Staind's music. "I don't like it because it's not the heavy stuff I love!". Well that's too damn bad. YOU are not them, YOU do not tell them what is or what is not their fucking music. THEY tell you. End of story. So it's the 'quote' REAL 'unquote' Staind fans that hate the music that piss off.
If you don't like the new album then quite simply you do not like Staind. You liked them for who they once were - which is perfectly fine, but please do not come on these forums, OR on Youtube and try to act like you are a REAL Staind fan because you liked them 12 years ago.
Real fans enjoy the music, love the lyrics, and support the band. That's what music is all about. /end rant
*edit* changed my wording around a little
Did you see them in concert this year?
Did you own every album?
Have you listened to them for over 10 years?
No? Well that's perfectly cool. Because the above - doesn't make you or break you as a Staind fan, at least in my opinoion. Just because you may not know Staind had a cd labeled Tormented or just because you don't own every album - plays no factor at all as to what makes a REAL Staind fan. Let me go on please:
Do you love Staind's music? Old and new?
If you were given the chance, would you go see the concert?
Would you sing along with a song, that gets played on the radio?
No matter how large your playlist, Staind shows up at least once every 9 or 10 songs?
That's the true stuff right there. That's what loving a band and their music is all about. It's not about how many CDs you own, how many times you have met them - it's about loving the music. That's what makes you a REAL Staind fan.
I made this post because of all the asshats out there telling everybody that "The Illusion of Progress" sucks because it's not Staind's music. "I don't like it because it's not the heavy stuff I love!". Well that's too damn bad. YOU are not them, YOU do not tell them what is or what is not their fucking music. THEY tell you. End of story. So it's the 'quote' REAL 'unquote' Staind fans that hate the music that piss off.
If you don't like the new album then quite simply you do not like Staind. You liked them for who they once were - which is perfectly fine, but please do not come on these forums, OR on Youtube and try to act like you are a REAL Staind fan because you liked them 12 years ago.
Real fans enjoy the music, love the lyrics, and support the band. That's what music is all about. /end rant
*edit* changed my wording around a little
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Permalink Reply by I_sEe_ThRu_U on -
thru and thru. i do own tormented. i just seen em. DO own every album. i listen 2 atleast 1 cd every day....no bullshit. havent listened 2 them 4 10 years tho. only been like 8 and half. i was 8 when tormented came out. 21yo now. haha give me a break. lol
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Permalink Reply by I_sEe_ThRu_U on
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thru and thru. i do own tormented. i just seen em. DO own every album. i listen 2 atleast 1 cd every day....no bullshit. havent listened 2 them 4 10 years tho. only been like 8 and half. i was 8 when tormented came out. 21yo now. haha give me a break. lol. i agree with u by tha way
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Permalink Reply by Shane Beacham on -
I love Staind's music except for Tormented. Being a Christian, I didn't like it's inner message about suicide and things like that. I know it was about how Aaron felt at the time. So in terms of Dysfunction through Illusion of Progress, Yes, I love their music. I would definitely go see them in concert if I could. Of course I would sing along, I do that even if it's not on the radio.
I can tell you right now I am fucking sick of hearing people say "I loved their old stuff, but not their newer stuff" and then have the nerve to say that they are fans of Staind. I personally think the title "Illusion of Progress" is a lie: Staind HAS made progress.
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Permalink Reply by spidermonkey on -
we put too much emphasis on "old" fans vs "new " fans vs "true" fans. it's all good.
i DO think fans upset by the direction of the band are misguided. they feel the band owes them something. ummmm, no. if you like the older music then pop in an older cd and enjoy. it's that s.i.m.p.l.e....don't trash them, that makes no sense.
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Permalink Reply by Heather on -
well put spidermonkey!
spidermonkey said:we put too much emphasis on "old" fans vs "new " fans vs "true" fans. it's all good.
i DO think fans upset by the direction of the band are misguided. they feel the band owes them something. ummmm, no. if you like the older music then pop in an older cd and enjoy. it's that s.i.m.p.l.e....don't trash them, that makes no sense.
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Permalink Reply by Jessica Burgos on -
I love Staind; however, I really am not too fond of the last album. I am not saying that it is a bad album, just that I find it hard to connect with it. With all of the previous records I have been able to put on my headphones and let Aaron Lewis' voice just carry me into a private place within myself. This album definitely did not do this for me. That being said, I hope that the band and the record label take into account all of the fans' opinions. Also, as a loyal fan, you can dislike the music and give it a bad review. If you say you like it just to be "nice" then you are lying to yourself and to the band.
--jess
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Permalink Reply by Aaron from NC on -
Well said. At first, I wasn't too thrilled with TIOP, but I got to listening more and more, and I really like it now.
spidermonkey said:we put too much emphasis on "old" fans vs "new " fans vs "true" fans. it's all good.
i DO think fans upset by the direction of the band are misguided. they feel the band owes them something. ummmm, no. if you like the older music then pop in an older cd and enjoy. it's that s.i.m.p.l.e....don't trash them, that makes no sense.
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Permalink Reply by Cintha on -
I love Staind,old and new.I do not own Tormented,but I have the rest of the cd's.I wish I could travel to the US to see Aaron live,but I saw Staind twice last year.
call me a true fan,or don't call me a true fan.I don't care cause I love Staind.that's all that matters to me
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Permalink Reply by LoveKira on -
I've loved TIOP since the first time I listened to it. I feel like an ignorant saying this, but I don't see a big diference between their last album and the others... Oh! I've never listened to Tormented, but I would consider myself as a Staind fan, anyway. x)
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Permalink Reply by Raina on -
Jessica Burgos said:as a loyal fan, you can dislike the music and give it a bad review.
--jess
^A most intelligent response! For years I've heard (and seen) "fans" bash the band and other fans, the whole old fans vs. new fans debacle, and the constant debate over what makes a "real" and loyal fan, etc. One side never seems any better than another...both having the capacity to annoy the piss out of me. Really, does one have to love or even like EVERYTHING about anything to be a "real" and loyal fan of it? Do we like everything about our mates, children, parents, friends, etc. to be a "real" and loyal fan of and to them?!? If so, them I'm a really bad mate, daughter, and friend, when here I (and those that know me) always thought I was loyal to a fault.
Well, I'm still a "real" Staind fan under those circumstances, though, since I DO love (at least always...eventually love) EVERY song of theirs. But, that's probably since I happen to appreciate just about every genre (unlike most). And, due to the fact that I'm certain I would honestly love how Aaron's literally singing about shit on a shingle would sound, since to me he has the most amazing sounding and versitile voice/range/vocal strength.
However, if I told you that I've never seen Staind/Aaron live, don't have anything signed, and don't own anything of theirs, would that really matter...make me less of a "real" and loyal fan? Particularly if let's go to an extreme and say I lived in the African Bush, thus had no money or access? Or, if God forbid I didn't like a song or two (or even a whole album or two), yet I REALLY like the rest and them as a whole? Then can I not be a "real" and loyal fan. I'm sorry, but that sort of elitist attitude annoys me as much as those that bash the band, one of their albums, songs, etc. Mind you, an intelligent and/or non-bashing critique of an album, song, etc. does not offend or annoy me...I've actually been known to make a few myself. ;)
BTW, I'm not pointing fingers at or responding to any ONE specifically. The amalgamation of posts just got me to thinking of how I felt about the subject since it's come up all too often w/varying veiws, and I just felt like adding my two cents to the topic. The whole debate has just always irked me. If one is a fan and one knows it, wtf cares (or should care) if others think so, too?!? ;)
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Permalink Reply by spidermonkey on
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who else had to look up the meaning of "amalgamation?"...good word.
Raina said:Jessica Burgos said:as a loyal fan, you can dislike the music and give it a bad review.
--jess
^A most intelligent response! For years I've heard (and seen) "fans" bash the band and other fans, the whole old fans vs. new fans debacle, and the constant debate over what makes a "real" and loyal fan, etc. One side never seems any better than another...both having the capacity to annoy the piss out of me. Really, does one have to love or even like EVERYTHING about anything to be a "real" and loyal fan of it? Do we like everything about our mates, children, parents, friends, etc. to be a "real" and loyal fan of and to them?!? If so, them I'm a really bad mate, daughter, and friend, when here I (and those that know me) always thought I was loyal to a fault.
Well, I'm still a "real" Staind fan under those circumstances, though, since I DO love (at least always...eventually love) EVERY song of theirs. But, that's probably since I happen to appreciate just about every genre (unlike most). And, due to the fact that I'm certain I would honestly love how Aaron's literally singing about shit on a shingle would sound, since to me he has the most amazing sounding and versitile voice/range/vocal strength.
However, if I told you that I've never seen Staind/Aaron live, don't have anything signed, and don't own anything of theirs, would that really matter...make me less of a "real" and loyal fan? Particularly if let's go to an extreme and say I lived in the African Bush, thus had no money or access? Or, if God forbid I didn't like a song or two (or even a whole album or two), yet I REALLY like the rest and them as a whole? Then can I not be a "real" and loyal fan. I'm sorry, but that sort of elitist attitude annoys me as much as those that bash the band, one of their albums, songs, etc. Mind you, an intelligent and/or non-bashing critique of an album, song, etc. does not offend or annoy me...I've actually been known to make a few myself. ;)
BTW, I'm not pointing fingers at or responding to any ONE specifically. The amalgamation of posts just got me to thinking of how I felt about the subject since it's come up all too often w/varying veiws, and I just felt like adding my two cents to the topic. The whole debate has just always irked me. If one is a fan and one knows it, wtf cares (or should care) if others think so, too?!? ;)
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